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Justice Talking Says Farewell

Note: Justice Talking ceased production on June 30 of 2008.  Commenting on blog posts has been suspended. Listeners who still want to communicate with us may address emails to: "jtinfo@justicetalking.org."

Thank you from the JT Crew

Today is the final day for the Justice Talking staff. I want to thank all of the talented people who have been part of our production team! I also want to thank everyone who has posted their thoughts and comments to this blog. Your appreciation for our work is so important to each of us.

 

A few folks have also made comments about NPR on this blog. I want to be clear that this decision was not NPR’s. We have never received funding from NPR and they have been completely supportive over the lifetime of this program. They, too, were saddened to hear that Justice Talking would be ending.

 

As for the many suggestions of how we could raise money to keep the show going, we appreciate your activist spirit! At this point though, it is, in fact, too late. There are no remaining staff to produce the show and stations have already found other programs to fill the space left by Justice Talking.

But as Margot Adler said in her closing remarks of our final show. “Justice Talking may end, but show or no show, this conversation and these debates will continue in the courts, in demonstrations and in the continuing battles that courageous men and women wage.”

 

With gratitude,

Ingrid Lakey

Acting Executive Producer

Justice Talking

 

Original Farewell Message

After nine years on the air, Justice Talking is ceasing production. We've heard from many people wondering why, so here's the deal: Our grant has ended. In many ways, it is quite amazing that Justice Talking has been around as long as it has. We appreciate the support we’ve received over that time from the Annenberg Foundation, the Annenberg Foundation Trust at Sunnylands and the Annenberg Public Policy Center. We are proud of the hundreds of hours of programs we produced which, we believe, helped people to understand the ways that our lives, the U.S. Constitution and the justice system intersect.

It has been an honor to be part of the NPR family and to have been heard by the listeners of over 100 large and small, urban and rural public radio stations.

We are going to continue producing the show through June 30 and you’ll be able to hear those programs here on our website www.justicetalking.org <http://www.justicetalking.org/> . We expect that our archive will remain online for the foreseeable future as well.

On behalf of the entire staff, thank you for listening to Justice Talking!


Questions about Funding

First, I want to thank everyone who has written to us with such thoughful words about Justice Talking! The funny thing about radio is that usually we have to take it on faith that what we produce is actually being heard and, we hope, making a difference.

Second, I'd like to address some of your questions about our funding situation. The show and website cost almost a million dollars to produce. We tried over a three year period to locate the needed funding but had to sunset the program when we failed. If someone found a funder willing to provide a multi-year commitment to the funding needed to produce Justice Talking and our sister website, Justice Learning, we would certainly revisit the decision.

Again, thanks to everyone who has shared their appreciation for Justice Talking. It has been enormously gratifying to the whole staff to hear that our efforts have mattered to you.


Ingrid Lakey
Acting Executive Producer
Justice Talking

Published Sunday, July 20, 2008 10:46 AM by ilakey@appc

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John Baber said:

This really kills me.  Justice Talking has the most actual content of any show on the radio.  You'll be sorely missed.

May 31, 2008 1:43 PM
 

Willis Bennett said:

You will be missed. As one of my favorite NPR staples, it's a shame that your funding will lost while many other endeavors continue to be funded.

May 31, 2008 6:49 PM
 

Kristen said:

I was out in my garden when I heard the announcment today.  I dropped my trowel.  I'm sorry to hear this as I too have enjoyed the show.  Even when I've disagreed with many of the individuals, I've been impressed with the level of debate.

June 2, 2008 2:20 AM
 

Evil Dick said:

Not okay!  Don't just drop dead.  Get more funding from somewhere else.  

How much do you need to keep the show going?

-ED

June 3, 2008 10:45 AM
 

Tom Foster said:

Justice Talking has been a great public service; its discontinuation will be a painful loss to me.  Are there possibilities for continued funding?

June 7, 2008 4:03 AM
 

Adele Zhang said:

Oh jeez. I had just discovered this one. Now I have to find a new favorite show.

June 7, 2008 9:54 AM
 

John Malsbary said:

You provide a vital public service.  Please continue to produce Justice Talking.

June 7, 2008 11:37 AM
 

Sarah said:

I'm sad to see this show end.  It's dishearteningly rare to find a source of discussion and debate where both sides of the issues are presented fairly and where guests are  knowledgeable, passionate, and able to debate and discuss issues without interrupting or berating the other speaker.  This was aided by Margo Adler's great moderation.  

June 8, 2008 8:17 AM
 

Greg Cundiff said:

American culture will be poorer for your absence.  You have grown to be a trusted institution.

June 8, 2008 3:01 PM
 

Dorcia said:

Please respond to our question as to whether there could be other funding and whether Justice Talking might return with enough encouragement from listeners.  Your ability to present both positions fairly and respectfully on the subject at hand has been the most reflective evidence of this nation's inclusive values that I've ever seen/heard in the media.  Please continue to seek funding and return to us soon.  

June 9, 2008 9:34 PM
 

jorge bela kindelan said:

Your program is the best radio program IN THE WORLD! it is a model to anyone interested in a serious discussion of the issues we face (and I mean a very big WE, since I live in Spain). I eagerly look forward to the weekly podtcast download. I hope some funding comes along and the program can continue. In any case, thank you so much for your good work!

June 10, 2008 1:09 PM
 

Spencer said:

As a student of Law, Society, and Justice at the University of Washington, I'm really discouraged to see this one go. I hope someone picks it up; it's been a great study aid, and a fantastic source of intellectual, accessible discourse on some of the issues most relevant to just about everyone.

Goodbye, Justice Talking. Your program may end, but you have inspired at least one student to take a more critical, comprehensive insight into justice in America. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem that justice applies as much to great radio programs as I once thought.

June 11, 2008 4:35 AM
 

Allison said:

Thank you for the lovely programs.  I have found the in depth discussions invaluable.

June 11, 2008 10:44 AM
 

Tasneem said:

Of all the programs that I have heard on NPR, JUSTICE TALKING was the meatiest.

Tis' a shame that it just ended, abruptly, and without any prior warning. Somehow,

I have a feeling that NPR wasn't too anxious to salvage this particular program.

Come on, you can not just up and leave like this when the debate about justice is

just beginning to heat up! There must be somebody with gobs of money lying

around to come to the rescue of this valuable program? How about Bill Gates?

Does he know that NPR is giving JT an ax?

June 14, 2008 3:24 PM
 

Lauren said:

It is indeed a shame that this important program of discourse/discussion on the important issues of the day affecting Americans is ending. Given the economic climate, it is a longshot that you will find the funding to resurface, but one never knows. Perhaps someone somewhere involved with public radio will pick up the slack and continue these important discussions that might actually "unite" America instead of "divide" it.

June 15, 2008 4:26 AM
 

Nick said:

Justice Talking was my favorite show.  You guys tackled some of the toughest issues of our time.  Over the last few years I've listened to the podcast of nearly every episode.  I just found out that you guys are going off the air and it makes me want to cry.  I'm still hoping that you guys can find some funding.

June 16, 2008 1:13 PM
 

Judith B., Maumelle, AR said:

I can't believe that you will cease to exist.  I heard about Tim Russert on Friday, and now on Monday, June 16th that you will not be here.  You and Tim Russet were my two sources of truth - and what now for the American people?

Judy B.  

June 16, 2008 11:29 PM
 

Lois Foster said:

Margo, in Alaska your interviews played at 4 AM here but you, your guests and the discussions were heard, contemplated, and appreciated. The show provided not only light but hope in times of darkness and disillusionment with the challenges of human nature and the legal system. I hope some way will be found to bring back a program so uniquely representative of the best of both.

June 17, 2008 12:24 AM
 

Bonnie Hay said:

I am shocked and saddened by the impending loss of this wonderful resource. I attended some of the early tapings of these dialogues and feel that the depth and thoughtfulness displayed in Justice Talking has been largely missing in the media. What can we do to save this forum? We need this type of program to foster an informed democracy.

June 18, 2008 11:52 AM
 

michelle said:

your show is amazing and one of my favorite podcasts!  i've learned a lot from your program.  

June 21, 2008 1:41 PM
 

Walt Johnson, Spokane WA said:

Your program has been the source of so much information in my life.  I can hardly imagine not having the insights you provide.   Where will I get the information needed for civic and civil life in the 21st century?  Find more funding, please!!

June 22, 2008 5:10 PM
 

Kim Gigstead said:

Farewell.  I'm sorry to see you go.

I really enjoyed sitting in the audience (Carpenter's Hall at first, then UPENN and finally at the Constitution Center) and watching the production come together.

We Americans are fortunate to have such vibrant founding documents.  Your show helped us to realize that we need to read and understand the Constitution, the Declaration and the Federalist Papers in order for them to remain vital and central to our daily lives.

You provided an extraordinary service.  Thanks.

June 23, 2008 2:45 PM
 

V. Merrill said:

Thank You for your excellent debates, and courage to tackle a wide variety  subjects that impact the American People. You will be sorely missed by inquiring minds, and dedicated students of the Law, and  deeply concerned citizens.

June 23, 2008 3:14 PM
 

Kathy Katz said:

I went to a taping here in Riverside, California to show my support for Margo and real debate, not just talking heads. Education and civility, not soundbites and yelling.  I just can't believe that you won't be there when it is time to get those guys. I will never forget the show or the notes I have exchanged through the years. Kathy

June 23, 2008 3:47 PM
 

Nate Howitz said:

Your show was the best for thoroughly exploring a subject. All through high school I used your show for information for my debate team.  You'll be missed.

June 24, 2008 2:56 PM
 

David Giltrow said:

Listeners clearly share the frustration and disappointment of the program's staff members in not being able to find sufficient funding to maintain a unique quality radio show--radio, for God's sake, the least expensive of the media to produce and sustain. We are left shaking our heads at what so-called investors will throw money at in films, television, magazines and other radio programs.

This listener fund raises for library collections. I'm sure we share similar experiences and the same frustrations in trying to find funds to maintain one of the central ingredients in any democracy--the uncensored flow of information to as many people as who will pay attention. Deepest thanks for your efforts, intelligence and dedication over the eight years. And, Margo, had we but known you were stuck in ABQ in 2001, we've have had you up to Santa Fe for at least a nice lunch.

June 24, 2008 3:51 PM
 

Orlando Gonzalez said:

I discovered Justice Talking six years ago, and it became almost instantly one of my favorites.  As an engineer that spends most of the time dealing with technology, your program helps me refocus and not loose sight of the "human factor".  It is insightfull, challenging and well balanced.  I also teach Science and have made JT an important part of my curriculum.  I want my students to learn that what we learn in the classroom becomes part of our everyday life, and what better  resource to convey that message than Justice Talking.  I wish the program could be saved and that others realize what an increadible loss this will be for everyone.  Thanks to you, your staff, and the producers for being a becon of light for the past nine years.

Sincerely,

Orlando Gonzalez, CT

June 24, 2008 8:42 PM
 

Mary M. Morgan said:

Is everything good, valuable, necessary for a democracy going down the tubes?  J T was among public radio's finest and certainly was the best program carried by our pathetic little NPR station here in the dumbed down  boondocks of Ohio.  As Senator Byrd said, "I weep for my country."

June 24, 2008 9:03 PM
 

Cameron Smith said:

Justice Talking has been invaluable to me.  The program fulfilled its mission wonderfully, presenting timely matters of real importance, and giving its listeners a clear understanding of how law and justice issues affect their lives.  It has opened my eyes to many issues I would never otherwise have considered.  I always felt that the staff and producers bent over backwards to give a fair and honest view of both sides of a controversy.  I have recommended the program to many others over the years and am heartbroken at its loss.  Thank you so much for all you have given me!  You should all be very proud of your work.

June 25, 2008 10:06 AM
 

Megan L. Anderson said:

Gosh, this reads like a wake.  I have also found Justice Talking to be one of the most enlightening shows on NPR when I started listening in 2001--Friday evening at 6 pm--what a great contemplative boost to the weekend!  And as a new teacher, I started using it in classes.  

I'm not a fundraising guru, but there must be something we, as listeners, can to to help with the funding situation.  This American Life (another favorite show of mine) put out a call to the podcast listeners this year to help raise extra money for the podcast production, and they succeeded.  It's likely that the funds needed for that were much less than would be needed to keep producing JT, but maybe a similar approach is possible?

Regardless, this post of laudation may help convince somebody that this show should continue to be funded, so keep writing!

June 25, 2008 2:56 PM
 

David Lapp said:

So sad!  As a high school teacher, as a law school student, and as a curious person, this has been my favorite radio program for years!  I've downloaded every podcast and listened to them on my headphones while biking all over Philadelphia (not the safest, but a great way to get exercise and stay informed at the same time).  Thank you Margot and everyone else invovled in producing this show for the gift you've given to us the past 9 years!  

June 25, 2008 6:02 PM
 

Greg said:

it ain't over till it's over..less hand wringing..more FRANTIC fundraising ideas..K'?

June 25, 2008 7:12 PM
 

Michael Yoon said:

Very disappointing.  The show will be missed very much.  Thanks for all of your work.

June 25, 2008 7:21 PM
 

Bill Stewart said:

I am so disappointed! Justice Talking has been one of the bright spots during a time when so many other sources of information have been lost, simplified, or distorted.What a loss! I know that foundations must be swamped with funding requests but what could be more needed than Justice Talking during these times? There must be other funding!

June 26, 2008 5:33 PM
 

Brian Meyer said:

Justice Talking is one of my favorite programs, for many of the reasons already mentioned. I feel it's an invaluable resource for our society, and it is really just tragic that a program of this  magnitude isn't sufficiently funded privately or publicly. Hats off to any of the Justice Talking staff that stumbles upon this comment. Cheers to you!

June 27, 2008 2:21 AM
 

Frank said:

The most civilized debating experience since high school debate teams. A true mental excercise will be lost while AM radio rants persist. What's wrong with this picture?

June 28, 2008 5:21 AM
 

Sue said:

In a world where it is difficult to maintain a balance of thought and understanding, "Jusice Talking"  ranked at the top in its effort to present that balance.  You will be missed.  Thank you.   Sue

June 28, 2008 8:33 AM
 

Mark said:

Is there anyway the public (the listeners) can fund this? I know there are enough of us to do it!

June 29, 2008 2:11 AM
 

Caraline from Massachusetts, USA said:

I just sent an email to the Annenburg Foundation telling them how much I'm going to miss listening to the Justice Talking podcast while walking through different nature trails of the Trustees of Reservations in Massachusetts.  I loved to learn about important issues while exercising and enjoying nature.  I'm going to miss the whole package.

June 29, 2008 8:51 AM
 

a gee said:

Amongst the many outstanding public radio shows, Justice Talking is a work of art.

These are the days when we will be needing your thoughtful inquires the most.  Surely a funding solution can be fashioned.  So many resource possibilities - the legal community is too poor?  Corporate America's appreciation of justice is bankrupt?  American institutions ignore fundamental precepts?  Nobody even cares?  

                                                  NOT EVEN!  

Let's turn this around.  I can help, will you?  Where can we meet online?  LET'S DO IT.

June 29, 2008 3:11 PM
 

Karen said:

There is so little 'brain food' even on NPR  - I could always count on Justice Talking to have an interesting program where I would learn something --  I will miss the show

June 29, 2008 3:15 PM
 

Bill Fish said:

Cancelling JT is a disgrace!  I can't imagine a program more needed in these days of contentious debate about the most important questions in our democracy, from the confusions of the Supreme Court to the sickening distortions on talk radio and talk TV, especially Fox "News".  To replace this solid contribution to our starvation for intelligent debate with a new age "Hearing Voices" borders on an invitation to insanity.  What are you thinking NPR?  Shame on you!  Not only John McCain has "lost his bearings".

June 29, 2008 10:04 PM
 

George Gale said:

I will miss your show greatly. I think shows like this are needed more than ever before. We desperately need a public that is better informed and better able to understand  the complexities of modern America.  I sincerely hope that additional funding can be found from somewhere...

June 30, 2008 7:20 AM
 

Michael Freedman said:

I have read your parting words as well as the accolades of the bloggers above. I concur with the sentiment that fewer programs on NPR provide the quality reporting which NPR classically was renowned for. As the Supreme Court becomes ever more impactful on "Unitary" Presidency's, the loss of your analytical voice is a real harm to democracy. Loss of Justice Talking is tantamount to losing democractic voices such as Seymour Hersch, Noam Chomsky, Naomi Klein, Amy Goodman, Bill Moyers, etc. Rather than further reasons why Justice Talking has been important to America; the question at hand is--What can be done to resurrect Justice Talking 2.0? If the answer is nothing, then I propose renaming the Supreme Court the Star Chamber of America.

June 30, 2008 8:53 AM
 

Ed Biebel said:

I am truly sorry to see Justice Talking leave the air.  I have enjoyed the show and ever attended a taping back when the show was recorded in Carpenter's Hall.  Justice Talking, in my opinion, was one the best produced and content rich programs on radio or TV.  Margot Adler was an excellent moderator and really helped get to the crux of many important issues.  The intelligent debate between guests that the program generated took positions that all too often are discussed only in soundbites and got to the heart of the different points of view.  I can honestly say that I learned the most of any program on TV or radio from Justice Talking and every program left me better informed about the laws, ideas and principles that drive our country.  I will sorely miss this show.

June 30, 2008 1:09 PM
 

Pauline said:

Justice Talking was timely and substantive.  The guests were authoritative. Margot Adler kept it in focus and moving along.  I learned from listening and enjoyed  the opportunities of seeing it in person.  Thank you for your contribution to the health of a lively democracy.

June 30, 2008 1:23 PM
 

Mollie said:

I discovered you last year through one of me college classes. I have tuned in ever since. Your program has been a continual source of insight into the many sided issues facing our society today. You will be sorely missed. Thank you.

June 30, 2008 2:30 PM
 

Charlotte said:

This program was one of the best anywhere.  Isn't there some way we can resurrect it?

July 2, 2008 11:27 AM
 

blaky wasgatt said:

I have loved this show for years. I don't get to listen as often as i'd like. it was finally listening to a podcast this evening that i learned the show has ended. My husband and i attended a taping years ago (pre-kids:-) and were thrilled to be right there to see the debate.

Years ago i heard a show on capital punishment. It changed my mind and i haven't changed back yet.

I love that npr has such in depth coverage of issues, and will listen to multiple sides of an issue. Justice Talking did that like no other show i've ever listened to. Thank you for the years of such a great show!

July 2, 2008 11:30 PM
 

Lucy from Chestertown said:

I almost burst into tears when I heard the series is ending.   And now to learn that it's about funding - argh!!!  Couldn't we fans have helped somehow?  It is one of the best shows on NPR and I feel the poorer for losing it.  The reasoned debates were so informative and useful to the daily life of citizens of the world.  Alas, I hope you can return.  And make it soon.  

Meanwhile, thank you, Margot, et. al. for such brilliant, balanced voices in this wilderness.

July 3, 2008 4:23 PM
 

anne said:

i am truly saddened. i have been out of the country and let my podcast renewal lapse. i didn't hear about this until now... i really believe that american culture will be less informed with your absence. i started listening to this show in high school, and have been educated by it ever since. i will miss margot's dulcet tones, and well informed guests. thank you all so much. thank you.

July 3, 2008 10:14 PM
 

Marlene Brubaker said:

I am grateful for the many shows produced over the years.  I am grateful that I was able to bring students both high school and adult from both Philadelphia and Camden to sit in the live audience both in Carpenter Hall and in the Constitution Center.  The program stretched my students in many ways.  I was always excited to be able to ask questions of the panel.  I know that in many ways I took the program for granted, thinking it would always be there for my next class.  The educational value of Justice Talking wasn't ever fully explored in my opinion.  All good things must come to an end.  I wish all the best to Margot and the rest of the staff.  

July 4, 2008 11:04 PM
 

Paul Beck said:

I had lived in Philadelphia for 26 years and got to KNOW and enjoy (coming from WHYY)   Justice Talking on a weekly basis;

In 2006 I retired to Yellow Springs, Ohio, 45387;  and was so pleased to find the local NPR station, WYSO carried the weekly show;  

Now I am so disappointed to hear about the 'passing' of the show..  

How would it be possible to contribute to the rebirth of the show???   I consider the show as a continuation of the thoughts of out Founding Fathers..  and somewhat clearer than 'normal news'

Sincerely, Paul Beck, 937-767-2419;

105 Park Meadows Drive, Yellow Springs, OH, 45387

July 12, 2008 10:45 AM
 

Rowan Fairgrove said:

Wow. Get a few weeks behind on a podcast and it goes away. And is even totally taken off iTunes! Wah!  I'm so very sorry you are leaving the air. I'll really miss your shows and commentaries and guests and insights and all the issues I might never have heard about otherwise. Is there any chance that at least the back shows can be restored to iTunes? I would love to have that archive available.

July 12, 2008 12:00 PM
 

Nick G said:

There are few shows that are simultaneously digestable and of a truly excellent quality. I don't even have the words to express the importance, value, and personal significance of this show. There are few shows that I can comfortably and confidently recommend to people who sincerely want to learn about the world around them. Now there is one less. If there is any possibility of receiving revived funding please fully and vigorously pursue it.

July 13, 2008 3:22 AM
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